Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/30/2001 04:55 PM Senate HES

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                SB 192-INCREASE CHILD CARE GRANTS                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
KRISTY  TIBBLES, legislative  assistant  to  Senator Drue  Pearce,                                                              
testified that  SB 192  would increase the  monthly base  rate for                                                              
child care from  $33.00 to $50.00 per child and  remove the $50.00                                                              
cap that  currently exists in the  Child Care Grant  Program. This                                                              
is a state funded  program that provides grants  to licensed child                                                              
care centers  and homes  for the benefit  of the facility  and the                                                              
children.  The  grants  are used  for  staff  salaries,  benefits,                                                              
substitute  staff,  goods  or  services  relating  to  the  health                                                              
nutrition  and  safety  of  children   in  care,  age  appropriate                                                              
equipment and supplies and activities for the children.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN  GREEN reported  she  had heard  from  many child  care                                                              
providers  in  her  community  particularly  as  other  state  and                                                              
federally   funded  programs   receive   substantial  grants   and                                                              
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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She's always  encouraged  to hear of  increased opportunities  for                                                              
people to make a choice on child care.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
YVONNE CHASE,  Deputy Commissioner  of Early  Development  for the                                                              
Department of Education  and Early Development, agreed  that it is                                                              
essential for small child care providers  in particular to get the                                                              
necessities to  continue in business.  Because this is  a flexible                                                              
pot of money,  it allows for a  wide variety of uses,  which is of                                                              
particular value to small providers.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Clearly,  as the  number  of providers  increases,  the base  rate                                                              
decreases if  the current level  of appropriation stays  the same.                                                              
Because the  department doesn't  know how the  final bill  will be                                                              
configured,  they have  submitted a  fiscal note  that reflects  a                                                              
range  of  costs  depending upon  whether  just  current  licensed                                                              
providers in the child care grant  program receive a base increase                                                              
or  whether current  and  new program  members  are included.  She                                                              
emphasized that this is not an entitlement.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN asked  whether there is a possibility  that child                                                              
care providers  will simply  drop out  of the business  altogether                                                              
causing a shortage of care givers.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  CHASE said that  all states are  finding that                                                              
because  this is  such  a low  pay industry,  it  is difficult  to                                                              
attract and retain  quality people. Small providers  feel this may                                                              
be  the only  money  that may  allow  them to  increase  salaries,                                                              
provide training and perhaps offer some health insurance.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN  asked whether the  language in  this legislation                                                              
could change a grant to an entitlement program.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  CHASE  was not certain  whether the  language                                                              
would make it an entitlement but  this is why they gave a range on                                                              
the fiscal note.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN  GREEN  responded  this  might  be  an  optional  grant                                                              
program, which would  keep it from being an entitlement.  She then                                                              
read the  following: "A grant under  (a) of this section  shall be                                                              
$50.00  per month for  each child  the child  care facility  cares                                                              
for,  or  for each  full  time  equivalent  as determined  by  the                                                              
department." She then asked whether that was an entitlement.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER CHASE replied  that currently and in the past,                                                              
a child care grant is not an entitlement.  They have increased the                                                              
rate  and limited  the  number of  providers  who may  participate                                                              
depending on the amount of funds available.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN  then asked Ms.  Tibbles whether she  could clear                                                              
up the  confusion since  she did not  want to  "change a may  to a                                                              
shall if that's not the intention."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. TIBBLES  replied that Senator  Pearce's intention was  to make                                                              
the base level  $50.00 and then apply geographic  adjustments. She                                                              
was not sure about what she meant by entitlement.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN said a comparable  entitlement would be Medicaid.                                                              
If seven people came in for service  then seven people receive the                                                              
service.  Anyone   who  meets  the  qualifications   automatically                                                              
qualifies,  so it is  not possible  to determine  how many  people                                                              
will qualify  ahead of time.  If this is  the case, she  wanted to                                                              
make sure that the fiscal note reflects that adequately.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
She pointed  out they  could pass  the measure  along and  let the                                                              
Finance Committee make the decision.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER CHASE closed  by saying that the department is                                                              
supportive of  the Child  Care Grant and  also of the  increase of                                                              
the base rate. She  wanted to make sure it was  understood that as                                                              
the number  of providers  increases, those  same funds  are spread                                                              
across more providers and the base rate goes down.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN said, "That's the  difference in [an] entitlement                                                              
program. Nothing  goes down; just  the total amount goes  up every                                                              
time someone else walks through the door."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JOY LYON, President of Alaska Chapter  of the National Association                                                              
of the Education of Young Children  (AAEYC) represents individuals                                                              
and  groups  across  the  state that  are  concerned  about  young                                                              
children. She testified  in strong support of SB  192. Grant funds                                                              
are typically used for staff salaries  that average just $8.14 per                                                              
hour. An increase  in the base rate is needed to  help attract and                                                              
hold  quality staff  and reduce  the current  40 percent  turnover                                                              
rate. Additionally,  the Child  Care Grant  is the only  incentive                                                              
for family child care providers to become licensed.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 507                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
GWENI  MAKI, owner  and director  of  the ABC  Child Care  Center,                                                              
testified  in support of  SB 192.  The increase  in the  base rate                                                              
would allow  her to  improve salaries  for her  staff to  decrease                                                              
staff turnover.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN wanted  to cover several finance  issues that would                                                              
be  developed  further when  the  bill  is  heard in  the  Finance                                                              
Committee.  First  he  pointed  out  this  is  a  $34.528  million                                                              
program. The legislature and administration  can take pride in the                                                              
fact that by midyear  2001 there is no longer a  wait list for day                                                              
care.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
In 2000,  the grant program  was $1.7 million  and in 2001  it was                                                              
$2.25 million  and in 2002 it is  $3.7 million which means  a base                                                              
rate of $23.00  in the first year,  $33.00 in the second  and with                                                              
the monies  appropriated  in 2002  it will rise  to about  $40.00.                                                              
This  reflects  extraordinary  growth  in the  grant  program  and                                                              
really shows  you the impact of  this bill. When you  multiply the                                                              
area cost differential by $33.00  you get about $48.00 per day for                                                              
those areas with high costs. When  you use $40.00 and use the same                                                              
area cost differential  you get $58.00. Therefore,  the $50.00 cap                                                              
locks in  people with  higher costs  at $50.00.  Raising the  base                                                              
rate to  $50.00 would mean those  same people would  get somewhere                                                              
around $78.00 per day making this a very expensive bill.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
With the  increase from  $23.00 to  $33.00, he  wanted to  receive                                                              
information on  how that money  was used. He  sent a letter  to 50                                                              
child care  providers in Fairbanks  asking them how they  used the                                                              
extra money and he received a response  from just three providers.                                                              
He said he would try again and expected to receive an answer.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Next, he expressed  disappointment in the fiscal  note. He thought                                                              
it  was possible  to take  the existing  day  care population  and                                                              
multiply  it by the  higher number,  which would  give the  fiscal                                                              
impact today.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER CHASE  replied that  was the  reason for  the                                                              
range in  the fiscal  note. The  lower end  represents moving  the                                                              
individuals currently  on the program  up to the $50.00  base rate                                                              
that is adjusted for their area of operation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked whether that was the $1.5 million.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER  CHASE  said  it  was  the  additional  funds                                                              
bringing the total  up to $3.7 million. Next she  showed the total                                                              
estimated population  that is available to apply for  the grant if                                                              
it were open  to all licensed  providers and they opted  to apply.                                                              
In years  past, she thought many  did not apply because  the small                                                              
amount of money available was not  worth the additional paperwork.                                                              
As the rates increased, more providers returned to the program.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  cautioned her  to have a  better fiscal  note when                                                              
the bill was heard in the Finance Committee.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER CHASE agreed to do so.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  then pointed out  that several years ago,  with HB
40,  daycare moved  to  the Department  of  Education providing  a                                                              
starting point in government. The  legislature wants to be able to                                                              
look back ten  years from now to  evaluate the costs.   During the                                                              
interim  they will be  working with  the department  so that  next                                                              
year  there will  be  more information  about  what providers  are                                                              
doing or  plan to do  with the money.  Since this is  an expensive                                                              
but  necessary  program there  needs  to be  accountability.  With                                                              
that, he reiterated his support for the program.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN said  one of her concerns is that  there tends to                                                              
be  a disincentive  for private  daycare providers.  She does  not                                                              
want all providers  to be government directed  programs. She wants                                                              
to equalize  the gift to  Head Start and  Boys and Girls  Club but                                                              
does not want to put others out of  business. It is her preference                                                              
to allow individuals a choice of child care options.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WARD  moved SB  192  and  accompanying fiscal  note  from                                                              
committee with individual recommendations.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, the bill moved from committee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

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